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Richard Cheverton's avatar

Vote by mail has any number of inherent problems--mostly the issue of privacy. Who gets to see the vote as it is actually cast? Then there's the issue of "bundling," and organizations gathering ballots--signatures may be coerced or rewarded. (Also an issue with in-person voting, but limited by poll-watching.)

No system is perfect; all can be manipulated and corrupted. I've lived in Chicago--the stories I could tell.

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Ben Roche's avatar

Your closing statement is spot on, but I believe firmly that polling place elections can be electioneered and fraud can occur more easily than our current paper balloting process that allows for audit and oversight. Nobody gets to see the ballot. We're supposed to have secret ballots remember. But what we can do is ensure the law is followed. Signature verification. Solid identification is current and all registered voters are citizens. Read my article about apathy. I post some solutions and some concerns that we can tackle and win.

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Mindy Kloser's avatar

I’m curious why you don’t address verification of citizenship only inconvenience?

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Ben Roche's avatar

It is the responsibility of every county clerk's office to assure the citizens they serve are represented, and only eligible voters are on the rolls. This includes only voters living in the district they are eligible to vote in, are US citizens eligible to vote, and purge voters who have moved, or are deceased. Most clerks do a great job, and while state laws have been passed that make that job more difficult, we have much to do to help them. Unfortunately many wish to centralize power at the state and federal level, this I disagree with. Not only should county clerks be the main accountable head of elections, they should be elected positions not appointed.

In Oregon, the default is that all 36 counties elect their county clerks, as required under ORS 204.005 and the state constitution.

However, nine counties have adopted a home‑rule charter, allowing them to appoint the clerk (often titled “elections director”) instead. These charter counties are:

Lane (1962)

Washington (1962)

Hood River (1964)

Multnomah (1967)

Benton (1972)

Jackson (1978)

Josephine (1980)

Clatsop (1988)

Umatilla (1993)

That means:

27 counties elect their clerk.

9 counties appoint the clerk under a charter system.

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Skeet's avatar

You are absolutely correct. I was an outspoken critic of the recall Kate movement. I watched the process consume PCPs. I am still ostracized for my stand. There were a few of us that wanted to support Trump and find good candidates for city councils. This is how CISC was created.

Over and over I hear the cry that we haven’t elected R as governor since mail in ballots. We have not had a good candidate and the candidates we have had ran terrible campaigns.

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Ben Roche's avatar

Thank you for subscribing and I mostly agree, Knute shot himself in the foot by pushing back at Trump to appeal to moderates, and Betsy Johnson spoiled it for Drazen. Had many Republicans united behind our nominee on both elections they results may have been different. In the 2022 election, statistics show the split off of Republicans plus the under vote gave Tina the queens crown. Point of my post is that PCPs need to focus on local voters, register more Republicans, and GOTV. Are not many of the CISC/Conservative Alliance volunteers supporting #ENDVBM?

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